crowdog66:
ganekhali:
thresch:
Wonderland: Please don’t call yourself a feminist
ganekhali:
thresch:
crowdog66:
tal9000:
taleth:
mushrooomz:
If you consume dairy or eggs, you are NOT a feminist. The dairy and egg industries are the biggest form of female oppression there is.
So this is the hill radical feminists are choosing to die on…
Vegan feminism: cis women have more in common with hens than with trans women.
OW. Oh, OW! I don’t think there’s enough aloe vera in the world to cover that much BURN.
Really? Eating Eggs and Chicken oppresses women? I would have thought it oppressed hens… And chickens… What the fuck is the world coming to now-a-days…
I’m sorry, but…. yes, Humans are animals….. But No, I’m not the same as a chicken, or a cow, or a pig, or any other animal. Don’t fucking equate me to one.
Feminism = gender equality…. for humans… This isn’t an animal right’s campaign. (But according to her blog, pointing this out would make me “Sexist, speceist scum” -snorts-).
^and this comes from a pagan…
And? What on the Gods’ given Earth does me being Pagan have a single goddamned thing to fucking do with not liking being equated to animals when it comes to the serious issue of the fact that I am less likely to get a job over a man in patriarchal society, let alone get paid the same wages as a man for the same job? Or the sexism in our society. Or the list of other, very real issues that impact whether or not I can make a decent life for myself, let alone enjoy the fucking thing?
Thanks for the stereotyping…. Congratulations. Not all pagans are good; Not all pagans love nature; Not all pagans promote harmony. While yes, I do prefer to work with “good magicks” (or whatever the fuck you prefer to call it), I do actually enjoy nature and love animals, etc…
- That doesn’t mean I have to put nature, animals, and other people before my own personal growth, establishment, and well-being.
- That ALSO doesn’t mean I appreciate being equated to a hen and told I and my life struggles are worth less than a fucking chicken by a member or my own species AND fucking gender.
You should do more research before some more stupid shit comes out of your mouth. You seem relatively ignorant on what Pagans are and are not, and the role it plays in our lives.
Being Pagan has no bearing on me thinking it’s bullshit that some extremist idiot would rather bitch about us eating chicken eggs and call THAT feminist, instead of actually fight for the shit feminism was created to fight for.
Animal Rights =/= Feminism.
You want to fight for animal rights, be my guest. I’ll fucking fight along side you (and the fact that I am Pagan will STILL have nothing to fucking do with it) because yeah, it’s bullshit how we fucking treat our animals. I don’t agree with it. SOMETHING needs to be done about it… But don’t fucking label this “vegan feminist” extremist bullshit “feminism” and fucking equate me to a fucking chicken that doesn’t have a choice and tell me “i’m not real feminist cuz teh poor chickens r bein exploited fur deir eggz n daz more impotnt than me mekin living n havn equl rites n opertunitiez.”
That’s not “feminism”.
That’s not even close.
First of all, you can tell me this without using the word “fucking” every second word.
So, you say humans shouldn’t be equated to animals, because…why? Where is the affront? We really have to rethink our value system. Someone is more worth than someone else, if he has more intelligence? This is a random feature we use as a measurement. We could also use the ability to climb a tree, and suddenly, humans would be pretty “worthless”.
I don’t say you cannot be a feminist if you are not a vegan. BUT you can’t deny that you aren’t opressing other females. You can’t. If someone rapes a cow, steals and kills her child so she can be milked, and you think this is absolutly okay, than you *are* opressing the animal, you rip it off of his basic needs and well-being. If you hurt a human woman, or a non-human woman, it’s the same; they suffer exactly the same. Isn’t rape rape? If a husband rapes his wife, it’s still rape, isn’t it? No single individual should be more or less “worth” than another one. If you say that an animal is less worth than a human, then you are doing exactly the same what men has done for a thousand years till today. “A woman is less worth than a man.”
Oh, and I am sorry to think that pagans promote harmony (like every religion should). I thought that was paganism about, “harm none”, that everything is connected in spirit, and that this world itself is holy, but I must be wrong.
LOLOLOLOLOL.
First off, I’ll say “fuck” if I want to. The OP pissed me off by basically sayng that chickens were more important than the human females feminism was CREATED to fight for (like I said, animal rights =/= and WILL NEVER =/= feminism)… YOU, however, pissed me off with the Pagan stereotyping bullshit.
I’m not required to be nice, especially not after your ignorance has continued to rear it’s ugly, bald little head.
Secondly? No. A whole fucking ocean of no. I can’t. I’m literally rolling on the ground in laughter right now.
“Oh, and I am sorry to think that pagans promote harmony (like every religion should). I thought that was paganism about, “harm none”, that everything is connected in spirit, and that this world itself is holy, but I must be wrong.”
Yes. Yes. You are wrong. So are so wrong I find it completely, utterly, 100%, absolutely fucking hilarious.

- “Harm None” belongs to the fucking WICCAN FAITH.
- WICCA is ONLY ONE of literally HUNDREDS of “Neo-Pagan” religions. NOT EVERY FUCKING “PAGAN” IS WICCAN.
- “Harm None” IS NOT A FUCKING LAW. IT IS “ADVICE”. NOT EVERY WICCAN FOLLOWS THAT “ADVICE”, NEITHER IS IT AN ABSOLUTE NECESSARY DOCTRINE OF THEIR FAITH AND PRACTICE.
- We are MORE than fucking HAPPY to rip you a new asshole when you need and/or deserve it.
- And you don’t even know the whole fucking thing, so don’t preach to me about “harming none” if you can’t say the whole fucking thing, or even know the most commonly used or followed form of it.
Seriously, you’re an ignorant fucking idiot, and you didn’t read a goddamned thing I said, did you.
Let me reiterate this for you.
- Being Pagan has absolutely 0 to do with my outlook on the treatment of humans or animals.
- It doesn’t mean I have to put nature, animals, and other people before my own personal growth, establishment, and well-being.
- It ALSO doesn’t mean I appreciate being equated to a hen and told I and my life struggles are worth less than a fucking chicken, LET ALONE being told so by a member of my own species AND fucking gender.
I never fucking said I was against animal rights, or didn’t believe in it, or that I though humans were in any way better than animals. I think you need to stop trying to put your ignorant words into my mouth and twist what I said.
Here, I’ll quote it directly for you:
Being Pagan has no bearing on me thinking it’s bullshit that some extremist idiot would rather bitch about us eating chicken eggs and call THAT feminist, instead of actually fight for the shit feminism was created to fight for.
Animal Rights =/= Feminism.
You want to fight for animal rights, be my guest. I’ll fucking fight along side you (and the fact that I am Pagan will STILL have nothing to fucking do with it) because yeah, it’s bullshit how we fucking treat our animals. I don’t agree with it. SOMETHING needs to be done about it… But don’t fucking label this “vegan feminist” extremist bullshit “feminism” and fucking equate me to a fucking chicken that doesn’t have a choice and tell me “i’m not real feminist cuz teh poor chickens r bein exploited fur deir eggz n daz more impotnt than me mekin living n havn equl rites n opertunitiez.”
That’s not “feminism”.
That’s not even close.

Pagan community, please educate this dumb bitch.
Gane, I have to point out that “Harm None” isn’t Wiccan, either. The Wiccan Rede consists of eight words (“An it harm none, do what ye will”), not two, and the gist of the Rede has nothing to do with never harming anything, ever.
That is all I have to say at this point. Followers, have at it!
Seriously. As a feminist and a Pagan I feel SUPER insulted. If I lived in a place where I could buy eggs from farmers that I know how they treat their animals? I would. Believe me. Fresh eggs are the greatest thing ever, and mom and pop farms are usually very good about how they keep their chickens.
But I’m not driving an hour to the nearest Farm that sells them, I’m just not. I can’t afford that. You can never convince me to stop drinking milk, or eating cheese, ever. My body starts to rebel and ache and cramp and hurt if I stop. I went two weeks without a glass of milk and was limping around for days. So, Yeah.
I like eating animals, I do. They’re delicious. Chicken especially. They should be treated better in MOST places, yes, but I’m still going to eat them. My diet and what I choose to consume has 0 to do with feminism. How dare you even say that it does?
I’m sorry if you’re insulted. I’m not into “Good Mag(j)ic(k).” I’ve been know to curse and promote suffering to people who wrong me. Not usually, mind, but I have done it, and I’ll do it again. Hell, Sometimes, I just tell people I’m doing it to freak them out, because I’m that much of a bitch.
It’s not that I don’t care about animal suffering. I really do, I want to make sure they’re treated well. I use cruelty free products, I’ve saved more animals, personally from harm than anyone else I know. Including my vegan friends, mind you, because I’m the one everyone calls to come rescue them. I mean, friends of friends have called me to come help them save some bunny or cat or snake or Dog or bird whatever it is that’s stuck/injured/suffering. So, Fuck you.
As a woman I have PERSONALLY experienced a lower pay rate than me who do less and worse work than me. I’ve PERSONALLY had men sexually harass me in my work place and have it be “okay.” I’ve PERSONALLY been sexualized and ASSULTED because I wasn’t up for some “fun” by a man who wanted me to touch his dick. Fuck you. I’m a feminist.
People tell me that my tits should be “open to the public” because they’re so big they’re a “gift to everyone.” and “Why don’t I want people touching them/talking about them/ showing them off.” Fuck you, I’m a feminist.
There was a (trans)woman at school when I went there. She wanted to be call “she” and people gave her crap about it. We were friends, not close, because we were different ages, but we talked and hung out sometimes. I fought, and when I say fought I mean, I punched some guy because he was harrassing her. Fuck you. I’m a feminist.
I don’t care more about a chicken because I’m too busy fighting for MY OWN rights. I help promote animal care when I can, but I’m not crazy enough to think that the fight for Animal Rights = Feminist issue. It doesn’t, and it does NOT matter to me as much as the fight for Equal Rights for every human.
And the fact that the path I’m on as a Pagan is acctually MORE likely to make me open to animal sacrifice and using things like animal bones/blood/meat should clue you into how VERY much what I consume and keeping animals alive is not a part of Paganism.